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    Live vs Online Poker Bankroll Tracking: What Changes and Why It Matters

    Live and online poker need different records. Hands per hour, costs, win rate units and how long it takes to trust your results, worked through with numbers.

    By PokerRoll6 min read

    Live and online poker are the same game played at very different speeds. That difference changes what you need to record, which units make sense, what your real costs are and, most of all, how long it takes before your results mean anything.

    This article goes through what changes between the two, with numbers, and what that means for how you track your bankroll if you play one, the other or both.

    Key takeaways

    • An online player at four tables sees about ten times as many hands per hour as a live player. Everything about sample size follows from that.
    • Live results are best measured per hour, online results per 100 hands. Use both units if you play both.
    • Live poker has costs outside the pot: travel, food, tips, time charges and hotels. Leave them out and your hourly rate is fiction.
    • Knowing a live win rate within ±5 bb/100 takes thousands of hours. Plan your bankroll for a long period of uncertainty.

    Hands per hour changes everything

    A live table deals about 30 hands an hour. A single online table deals around 75, and many online players run four or more at once. Using the same standard deviation of 90 bb/100 for both, here is how long it takes before the 95% range on a win rate shrinks to a useful width:

    Hours of play before the 95% range on a win rate narrows to each margin
    SettingHands per hourHours to know it within ±10 bb/100Hours to know it within ±5 bb/100
    Live, one table301,0404,150
    Online, one table754101,660
    Online, four tables300100410
    Standard deviation 90 bb/100, rounded to the nearest 10 hours. Live games often swing more than this, which makes the live figures optimistic.

    A live player needs about 1,040 hours just to know their win rate within ±10 bb/100, a range so wide that it still includes both losing and very strong players. Within ±5 takes about 4,150 hours: at 15 hours a week, more than five years.

    That is not a reason to give up on tracking. It is the reason live players should track everything: their own results are the only data they have, and they accumulate slowly.

    Per hour or per 100 hands

    Online, hands are counted for you, so the natural unit is big blinds per 100 hands (bb/100). Live, nobody counts hands, so the natural unit is per hour: money per hour or big blinds per hour.

    They convert into each other through hands per hour:

    bb per hour = bb/100 × hands per hour ÷ 100

    A live player winning 10 bb/100 at 30 hands an hour makes 3 big blinds an hour, which is $6 an hour at 1/2. An online player winning 5 bb/100 at four tables of 75 hands makes 15 big blinds an hour, $15 an hour at NL100. The live player has twice the win rate per hand and a fifth of the big blinds per hour. The hourly rate calculator does the conversion for your own numbers.

    If you play both, record hours for every session, online too. It is the only unit that lets you compare a live evening with an online one, and it is what you need for any decision about where to spend your time.

    Costs: the part of live poker your results leave out

    Online, the rake comes out of the pots and is already in your results. Rakeback and rewards come back on top, and it is worth tracking them separately so you can see what your play earns on its own.

    Live poker has a second set of costs that never touch the table:

    • travel, parking and fuel;
    • food and drinks at the casino;
    • dealer tips, which add up quickly at a full table;
    • a time charge, where the room charges per half hour instead of raking pots;
    • hotel nights and flights on poker trips.

    None of these appear in "bought in for $300, cashed out for $420". All of them come out of your bankroll. A live player who wins $10 an hour at the table and spends $4 an hour on travel, food and tips makes $6 an hour. Track expenses per session, and look at your hourly rate both before and after them.

    Swings per hour

    More hands per hour means more swing per hour, in big blinds. Over one hour, the standard deviation of a live player's result at 30 hands is about 49 big blinds; for the online player at four tables it is about 156.

    But the edge grows faster than the swing: hands per hour multiply the expected result, and only the square root of them multiplies the swing. Over 100 hours, the live player winning 10 bb/100 is still behind about 27% of the time, while the online player winning 5 bb/100 at four tables is behind about 17% of the time. More volume makes results converge sooner, even at a lower win rate per hand.

    What to record in each

    The core of a session record is the same everywhere: date, game, stakes, buy-ins, cash-out, time played. The details differ.

    Live sessions:

    • start and end time, minus breaks;
    • every buy-in, including rebuys and add-ons, not just the total;
    • venue, and the table or game if the room runs several;
    • expenses for the session;
    • a line of notes: table conditions, how you played, anything unusual.

    Online sessions:

    • site and game type;
    • number of tables and hours;
    • result per session, or per day if you play many short sessions;
    • rakeback or rewards credited, kept apart from the result;
    • deposits, withdrawals and currency conversions, which move the bankroll without being results.

    Online players who use a hand-history tracker such as PokerTracker or Hold'em Manager already have detailed numbers for the hands, but those tools do not cover live play, expenses or money held off the sites. A bankroll tracker or spreadsheet covers the money side. The poker session log article has a full list of fields and why each one is worth recording.

    One bankroll or two?

    There is no single right answer. Some players keep one bankroll; others keep separate ones, often because live play needs cash at hand while online money sits on sites, or because they play in different currencies.

    What matters is:

    1. every game you play has enough buy-ins under your own bankroll rule;
    2. you can see the total at any time;
    3. your results are tagged so you can split them by live and online, by stake and by format.

    The third point is the one players skip. A combined win rate across live and online games is a blend of two very different numbers, and it hides which one is paying for the other.

    Tracking both in one place

    A spreadsheet can handle both if you are disciplined about columns; the free poker bankroll spreadsheet has one ready to copy. A bankroll tracker app does the same with less typing, especially at a live table. PokerRoll is built for this mix: it times live sessions as they happen, with rebuys and add-ons, records online sessions after the fact, handles 16 currencies and marks every session as live or online. It does not record expenses yet, so live players who want their hourly rate after costs should note them per session, or keep the spreadsheet alongside.

    Frequently asked questions

    Should I track live and online poker separately?
    Track them in one place but keep them apart in the numbers. Live and online results differ in hands per hour, costs and swings, so a combined win rate hides what each game is doing. Tag every session as live or online and look at both separately as well as together.
    How do live poker players measure their win rate?
    Usually in money or big blinds per hour, because nobody counts hands at a live table. Divide the net result by hours played, with breaks taken out. If you want bb/100 for comparison, estimate it from about 30 hands per hour.
    What expenses should I track for live poker?
    Everything you would not have spent without the session: travel, parking, food and drinks, dealer tips, a time charge paid separately from the pot, and hotel nights on poker trips. Rake taken from the pot is already in your result.
    Why does it take so long to know a live win rate?
    Live games deal about 30 hands an hour, against 300 or more for an online player at four tables. Knowing a win rate within ±5 bb/100 takes about 125,000 hands at a 90 bb/100 standard deviation, which is around 4,150 hours live and 415 hours online at four tables.
    Do I need one bankroll for live and online poker?
    Not necessarily. Many players keep separate balances because live play needs cash on hand and online money sits on sites. What matters is that each game you play has enough buy-ins under your own bankroll rule, and that you can see the total.

    Calculators used in this article

    • Poker Hourly Rate Calculator

      Turn bb/100 into an hourly rate across tables and stakes, add rakeback, and see the range your true win rate could sit in after the hands you have played.

    • Poker Bankroll Calculator

      Work out how many buy-ins you need for cash games, sit & gos and tournaments from your win rate or ROI, how much your results swing and the risk of going broke you accept.

    Get these numbers from your own sessions

    PokerRoll is a free bankroll tracker and session log for live and online poker. It turns the sessions you log into hourly rate, ROI and swings by stake and format.